The Infamous Boss Tweed
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Watch the video presentation (there's a text version as well if you are having trouble getting the video to play) and respond to the following questions:
1) What are the similarities and differences between the political practices of the Gilded Age and today? (mention at least two of each)
2) Choose one of the three "explore" topics listed on the left side of the lesson (you have to start the lesson before they are available) and answer the question asked.
3) How did the rise of political "machines" cause the local, state, and federal governments to become involved in social welfare? Can you imagine a better solution?
This assignment will doubtless take you some time and effort - but as a reward there will be no homework the next week so that you can more fully enjoy your Thanksgiving holiday. Your essay should be at least 200 words long, with responses totalling 150 words. Last week's assignment was supurb - keep up the good work!
1) There are a few similarities and differences between the political practices of the Gilded Age and of the current state of the United States of America. In both, money is or has controlled culture and politics. We also see many corporations and businesses merging and fusing into larger, huge, dominant corporations. In both situations you see the "machines" giving to poor and underprivileged people and giving social benefits, but at great expense to the public. I do think that there are less scandals and trickery going on today, although the politicians may be almost as corrupt. We also have so much more technology and advancements today compared to back then.
ReplyDelete2) Gilded Age Styles. I do think that that contrast between rich and poor does still exist today. I don't know if it is as noticeable today, but it is at least almost as significant. I do think that there isn't as great a difference between the quality of life between the upper and lower classes today, and the rich and poor back then, but I do think that there still is a great difference between the two.
3) The political machines were very greedy and were looking to get money for themselves. They took money from the public. I don't know if I can really think of a better solution now, but this question is very difficult.
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ReplyDeleteSo many times we look at government and complain. I’m sure many of us are guilty of it, but looking at the history of what government has come from, we must compare and then make our judgments. The government of then and now do have their similarities though. I believe that some of the similarities can be applied as differences though. Number one, appearance. Just like in today’s society, image is everything. Then appearance really had an impact on the government and who was popular. This is a similarity of today. Whether we want to admit it or not, we want those who have an outward show of strength and leadership, but at the same time we look for those who are different which is a difference. We, today’s society, are drawn to things that are different. Individualism is encouraged and promoted whereas in the past, the social leaders were the ones who set the stage. They elected those who were rich and most popular among the people. This shows the difference in the society as a whole, not only government. Another similarity though is the population. During the Gilded Age, the government had to deal with the massive immigration issue. Today, we have so many different individuals entering our country; the government has to step in as it was many years ago. The second difference is the demand for government involvement. During those years, many wanted the government to get more involved, but in today’s time I believe there are more individuals looking for government to withdraw much of their involvement. Depending on the political party, social position, and previous experience will be the cause of a person’s beliefs.
ReplyDeleteThe difference between the rich and poor. First, I want to point out the extreme difference between the rich and the poor in the past. We can distinctly see the rich and poor by their housing, clothing, and overall presentation for those individuals in the past, and if we’re honest with ourselves we find ourselves making those same judgments today. Though it is harder to distinguish the rich and poor, we can find common characteristics between the two time periods. Fine clothing is a bit deceiving because we have made it so much more available, but we can look at housing. Through housing we can see the individuals who make less than average or who don’t make an excessive amount. We see certain houses that we would consider expensive, but the line between what we would call the “middle class” and “upper class” has definitely dissolved to much less. So I would say you can make a pre-determination on how well off an individual is, but it is not as definite as the past has been.
The “machines” caused the government to become more involved in the people’s lives because those who were leading the government were just those well-off citizens. They knew what was going on in the community and they helped even though it was by corruption. They liked the power and money, but they invested it into the widows and orphans. Is there a better way? I don’t know. Yes the government is good to step in and help, but as Christians that’s our job. We are told to help those in need. So the government has had so much influence in every part of everyone’s lives throughout history.
The Gilded Age( late 1800’s-early 1900’s) was known for its cheap commercialization, shotiness and fakery, in the words of the video. This statement already forms some similarities in my mind between the political practices of the government of then and now. Money seemed to control everything then, and it still does now. Then, the government got involved with welfare and it still does today. Also, during the Gilded Age it was expensive to maintain the political machines. That is still true of today, as running political parties is expensive as well. In my opinion, Obama is a result of a political machine. At the beginning, he got supporters that were able to get him into the Senate in which he cared only for putting himself forward. There is evidence of this from his voting record. Some differences between the Gilded Age’s political practices and today’s was that the political machines then were only in it for themselves. Now, however, they try to meet the needs of the people who vote for them. Also, today there is a wider variety of people that fund the political machines, as opposed to the Gilded Age when they were funded only by wealthy people. Many people in the Gilded Age wanted reform, since the political machines were at great expense to those who were not as wealthy. Speaking of those who were not as wealthy, I choose New York Townsend Houses topic. These people, mostly immigrants, had living conditions that doubtless neither you nor I would find satisfactory, or in the least bit luxurious. Those apartments were old, tiny and run-down looking. However, those who lived in them were very grateful for what they were offered, since for them it meant their own apartments at a low, affordable price and it was a plus that it was within walking distance to where they worked. The question asked was: Which of the following statements is not a reasonthat people chose to live in tenements? The answer was D, so they could have easy access to public libraries and museums and such things. Obviously, with their low income they couldn’t really afford extra things such as these. They worked in the factories and earned their living and for some, the tenements were much nicer living conditions than of which they had come from previously. In the Gilded Age, the rise of the political machines caused the federal government to be involved in social welfare because there was a booming industry and there was an obvious need to act somehow in order to help those in need of welfare. Of course, those in control of it were more concerned with themselves than the public they served, which didn’t help much. One solution I think might work would be training for jobs that provide a long lasting job for people to make a living.
ReplyDeleteFirst, some similarities between the political practices of the gilded age and today.
ReplyDeleteThis may not be a "political" similarity, but i just thought that it was interesting that their focuse was on expensive things, yet they setteled for cheep things. I think that nowadays, so many people have tons of stuff(most of which we could do without), and we take it for granted.
We should really be a lot more thankful for all the things that we have!
Anyways, one similarities was that there were a lot of people working in factories, and liveing near the factories. There were a few people controling the factories, and making lots of money, where as the workers were not paid very much money(which is not such a big problem nowadays). There were also a lot of differences between then and now. One major difference is that the working conditions are much better now. Back then, the employer didn't care at all about the employees, so there were a lot of accidents on the macheniery. Another difference is that back then there were no organizations to help the poor.
In answer to the questions from the "explore" on the tweed political cartoon, i think that the artist intended to influence the public that had no idea what was happening to all their money, and i think that he would have wanted it to prompt an investigation on what was happening to all that money.
In answere to the third question, it got others involved in social wealfare because all that money was going to the wrong places, and the people were suffering from it, and i cant imagine a better solution. I just got a migrane.
The gilded age politics are similar and very different from our own politics. For one, the providing for several community needs in exchange for votes is uncommon these days, or at least it is not easily visible from the onset of the situation and I am quiet sure it still goes on somewhere these days (acorn). Another form of governmental assistance is the exchange of business favors in the “good ole’ boy” system of helping your friends out regardless of their situation or the company they keep.
ReplyDeleteIn the political cartoon we see Boss Tweed as a bullying school teacher and the comptroller of NYC, Richard B. Connolly, portrayed as a school boy. The cartoon was most likely made to influence the public into no longer trusting the corrupt business men with their finances and any public office. The intended reaction the artist was looking for was outrage from the public, and it is even depicted with Connolly saying “These figures won’t suit my father, the public.” Tweed’s response is outrage, and he demands that Connolly forget about the public and worry about becoming rich with Tweed’s inaccurate money handling.
The rise of political machines then caused the “favors” that the machine offered for votes and political loyalty. They poor immigrants needed an economic boost, but the government would not offer it! That’s why the machines were so successful they took advantage of poor folks that couldn’t afford their own home, let alone a daily meal. The corrupt government at this point in the machine provided for the people and they came to rely on it. After (most) of the machines were dismantled the government continued in the footsteps of the machine in the single respect of providing for those who could not provide for themselves.
John i love the similarities you cited between current and former political systems. The way you highlighted that culture and politics are all money controlled all the time. The people ,sadly, rarely play a role in politics.
ReplyDeleteXalo your point of the similarities was excellent as well. The way all the communities are basically built around factories and that eventually those factories spawn cities! The factory system basically spawns city systems! Is that a shock to anyone else?
ReplyDeleteThere's not very many similarities and differences between the Gilded Age and today. For example the people during the Gilded Age favored gold and back then people that had gold were viewed as wealthy. If you look around today you see that gold also plays a large part in today's society. Anybody that has lots of gold is viewed as wealthy because of the high price on gold today. Another similarity is the fact that back then many people was seeking very expensive things even though they can't afford them. Now days if you look around it's pretty much the same because just about everyone wants nice things even though most of us don't have the money because of the condition of the economy.
ReplyDeleteSome differences are that the working conditions are very different from today's. During the Gilded Age, the work conditions were horrible because there was no laws for workers rights and the owners just didn't care. Today we have laws and all kinds of organizations that support and enforce the modern day working conditions(ex. OSHA). Another is the technology and processes that they used in the factories. In the early days they used old and slow processes that had many workers working long hours. Now they have very quick processes that uses robots and less workers than originally.
The topic that I chose was New York City tenement houses. The question that I had to answer was what was not a reason that people chose to live in tenement houses? I answered D. which stated that they lived there because it was in close to museums, libraries, and universities. We all know that is definitely false because during that era the people that lived there really didn't care about those kind of things. They lived there because it was close to industrial locations, it was affordable, it was better conditions than what they had came from, and it had people that were basically in the same class so they as stated in the writing felt like a "community".
On to the last question about the rise of political machines. The machines were basically the base of today's welfare. I know they have a lot of differences because the big year difference, but they have the same concept which is to help those that aren't able to help themselves. The whole system was corrupt, but it did have a lot of good come out of it. Around the end of it all the government had gotten rid of most of the machines, but the government still used some of the machines ideas. As you have seen many other people state, I really can't think of any better solutions right now.
1) What are the similarities and differences between the political practices of the Gilded Age and today? (mention at least two of each)
ReplyDeleteThe government is similar today in that the government doesn’t feel that it needs to take care of the people who it governs, but that it should instead provide services such as transportation and roadways. We are also similar today in that there is still an amount of corruption in our government. We have also changed in several ways. Today, people in general are much more accepting of socialism (cough Obama cough). We have also become more of a government for Wall Street and the big corporations like Wal-Mart
2) Choose one of the three "explore" topics listed on the left side of the lesson (you have to start the lesson before they are available) and answer the question asked.
In answer to the questions on the tweed political cartoon, I think that the artist intended to influence the public that had no idea what was happening to all their money and I think that he would have wanted it to prompt an investigation on what was happening to all that money.
3) How did the rise of political "machines" cause the local, state, and federal governments to become involved in social welfare? Can you imagine a better solution?
The rise of political machines then caused the favors that the machine offered for votes and political loyalty. The poor immigrants needed an economic boost, but the government would not offer it! That’s why the machines were so successful they took advantage of poor folks that couldn’t afford their own home, let alone a daily meal. The corrupt government at this point in the machine provided for the people and they came to rely on it. After the majority of the machines were dismantled the government continued in the footsteps of the machine in the single respect of providing for those who could not provide for themselves.
Let’s face it, there will always be a benefit for the politicians in this world. No matter what they say they will always get something out of it. Today however, the things that will benefit only them are not as out in the open as they were back then.
ReplyDeleteAs for the contrast between the rich and the poor today, I think that it is still big, just not as noticeable. Look at the house that a doctor lives in compared to someone who is unemployed and whose family isn’t made of money. The doctor usually lives in a house that has more rooms than his/her family will ever use, while the other person’s family is having to share a room or even the same bed.
The rise of political “machines” changed the way that most everything worked. As more and more political “machines” got the political seats people were less caired for and the politicians themselves were only in it for the money that they could eventually get out of it. Today that may still be the case in some aspects but not in all of them. Honestly, politicians don’t get paid very much considering all they do. I personally wouldn’t spend that much time on something that in the long run only gets my name on TV or something like that.
Let’s face it, there will always be a benefit for the politicians in this world. No matter what they say they will always get something out of it. Today however, the things that will benefit only them are not as out in the open as they were back then.
ReplyDeleteAs for the contrast between the rich and the poor today, I think that it is still big, just not as noticeable. Look at the house that a doctor lives in compared to someone who is unemployed and whose family isn’t made of money. The doctor usually lives in a house that has more rooms than his/her family will ever use, while the other person’s family is having to share a room or even the same bed.
The rise of political “machines” changed the way that most everything worked. As more and more political “machines” got the political seats people were less caired for and the politicians themselves were only in it for the money that they could eventually get out of it. Today that may still be the case in some aspects but not in all of them. Honestly, politicians don’t get paid very much considering all they do. I personally wouldn’t spend that much time on something that in the long run only gets my name on TV or something like that.
Two similarities I noticed between the Gilded Age and today are 1)immigration and 2)gold. Immigration in the Gilded age was obviously much higher in volume of people that entered the United States, and there was not really anything they had to do to enter. No forms, no wait, just hop on a boat and your in! Where as today, it takes 8 years (on average) to become a United States citizen! And because of the wait, many citizens of Mexico believe that they should just waltz on over to America without applying for citizenship.
ReplyDeleteGold, obviously is a symbol of power. Doesn't matter what period of time we examine, gold will always be something that seperates the wealthy from the poor. Its price, obviously, is what keeps certain people from obtaining it. Also because it isn't exactly growing on trees.
Two differences I noticed between the Gilded Age and today are: 1)unemployment and 2)support. My two differences tie together in a way. Today, if you are unemployed, you basically can get by if you are in the welfare system. If your unable to work, like if you're injured or disabled, welfare is great. The government will support you. Back then, if you're unemployed, you simply had to figure out for yourself how you were going to survive.
For the second part, I chose the NYC Tenement Houses. And I chose D for my answer, because I seriously doubted that people in these houses were interested in going to museums in their spare time.
And lastly, the third. As political "machines" grew larger, people began to demand for more help from their government. It gave them the idea that the government is responsible to take care of them. I don't think I have a better solution in mind. Haha well not with the little space I have left to type anyway.
hannah, I liked what you said about how politicians will always cause good in this country. Even though we don't always agree with their ideals, the cream always rises to the top and good ideas turn into good laws. Republicans and Democrats alike will produce laws that will guide this country on its continued path to greatness. We just have to remember to keep GOD in the picture!
ReplyDeletenice work hannah
Emily, I enjoyed your essay. I especially liked where you discussed our desire for individualism. We as a people seek new things, new ideas, and new...stuff. We don't want to just hear the same thing or do the same things every day. That is why socialism wont work and never works! Just one reason why: everyone doing the same thing is just wrong, especially in a country with 300 million people.
ReplyDeleteNice job Emily
Politics back in the Gilded Age were different and similar to the system today in many ways. Back then, every level of government sought to provide simple services like a legal system and roads to the people. That is pretty much similar to today. In those times, bosses of big organizations would grow powerful and get large masses of people to support them. They would then run for a seat in government. Using machine politics, or calling out the votes like a machine, they would win easily. Unfortunately, many of these elected men would serve their own wealth instead of looking out for the people that elected them. That is similar to many politicians today.
ReplyDeleteThe video said that some people who wanted system reform had their property taxes raised, or even their lives threatened. I’m pretty sure that doesn’t happen nowadays (hopefully). Back then, the elected men (the bosses) weren’t loyal to any political party. That’s another difference.
I chose the cartoon depicting Boss Tweed as a bullying teacher. The questions were about what the cartoonist wanted to happen after he got it out. I think the artist expected to influence people who didn’t know how powerful Tweed was and to get them to want separation from the socialist system. The sort of action he wanted was to persuade people to come together against Boss Tweed for reform.
I believe the rise of these political machines caused all levels of government to feel like they had the power to control where all the money goes. I don’t think this was a good system.
Tyler, I hope you realize that on your number 3, you simply copied and pasted what Jaykub wrote about his. Probably don't want to do that.
ReplyDelete1) Politics have been around for ages and while old, not everything about them has changed. Lots of the practices that were used are still used today. One of those things is lying, deceitfulness, trickery, etc. While this is very cheap and wrong, it still happens. People, including politicians, will lie to their voters just so they can get them to vote for them and then when they are in office, they completely turn the other cheek and don't follow through with their “promises”.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I find different it the fascination with gold and the reliability upon it. Today, I don't think the average American really values gold as much as it use to be. While gold is very expensive and shows wealth, people don't want to have a gold bar in their wallet, they want paper money. That little promissory note just seems to hold more value than the gold does in my opinion.
2) I chose Gilded Age Styles. I do not think the same contrast exist between rich and poor today as it did in the very early 20th century nor do I think the quality of life did either. From what I remember and have read, back then, when you were rich, you really were living the life of a king. If you were poor, you really were poor, possibly living on the street starving to death. Today, if you are “rich” then you are living pretty good, but not like a king. Poor isn't homeless on the street starving. It may be living in a trailer home and driving a 1970 Ford Pinto, but you aren't “poor” in the 19th century use of the word. Like the question stated, middle-class families employed servants to do household work. Who today living in the middle-class would have that kind of extra money to waste on someone washing their toilet? No one I know. So I believe it has changed quite a bit.
3) The political machines used the poverty of immigrants and other to gain them votes. They would offer jobs, money, food, etc in exchange for votes and loyalty. While corrupt, many poor immigrants really didn't have a choice. It was either vote for them or starve to death. The government soon realized this problem and removed many of the political machines that were doing this. The government then helped out and did their part by helping out those who were in poverty.
Josh, I saw a key item in your essay that is very true in today's politics. Many people that are elected into the government really serve only to get wealthy. I'm not saying that everyone is, but many of them do. I agree because if you do look around in politics you see senators and other officials that have incredible amounts of money. Some may just be born into wealthy families, but there is a large percentage that is very wealthy. Out of all the government officials only a handful is really and truly dedicated to helping the people. Good essay, Josh.
ReplyDeleteColby, I liked how you included the fact that modern day politics hasn't changed too much since the Gilded Age. There is a lot of cheating and lying in modern day politics. Politicians lie to the people by telling them what they want to hear in order that they get elected and then when they win the election they don't fulfill any of their promises. This is why many people say that politics is corrupt. Anyways you had a really good essay. Good job, Colby.
ReplyDelete1)Politics were affected by several of the same factors as they are today. I noticed how several people stated that gold was one of the differences back then. However, I find the opposite to be the case. If you look just a little bit deeper, gold to the Americans of that time represented money. Money is a MAJOR issue on every American's mind today. Be it in the form of taxes, heathcare, etc, it all stems from money.
ReplyDeleteOne difference I found was the conditions of many voters. In that time, there were practically no standards of living or laws enforcing working condition standards, or even minimum wage. Many were immigrants fresh off the boat and were barely avoiding starvation. This allowed people such as Tweed to prey on their weakness and use it for political scandal. (Granted, this may be somewhat ignorant since I don't know and don't claim to know everything but) Today, most voters are not fighting for an existence. There are those people in America, but most of them don't have the time or worry to vote, they are focused on more important things, like staying alive. For the most part, I'd say that an operation like Tweed ran in the 1860s would be much much less successful today.
2)I chose New York City Tenant houses:
I chose C. I think that immigrants did NOT choose to live in tenements for their close access to museums, libraries, and universities. These people were living with 5 or more people in an apartment that would not be considered properly sized for even one single person by today's standards. The living conditions were appalling to say the least. I'm sure that actually living there was thousands of times worse than just seeing pictures (that alone made me cringe). These people were worried about waking up the next day and being able to keep their children from starving, attractions and past times would be the last thing on their mind. No one would live in one of those places because they wanted to. With that said, I would say that every other answer besides the one I chose was foolish.
3) I think the "machines" ,as they're called, helped show the government how poor of a state the cities were in. I think that the fact that people were giving up some of their freedom in exchange for basic necessities. Most of the fat cats in Washington back then probably never knew what it was like to miss a meal. This had to be eye-opening for them.
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ReplyDeleteSam, you are right about the fact that most Mexican immigrant don’t apply for American citizenship. I don’t know about you, but it bugs the daylights out of me when I think about all the people that are living here illegally, getting jobs and getting payed for them when that job should have went to an American that needed it. Instead, the job goes to someone that isn’t from here. But, those same people (the ones we call Mexicans) are the ones that are working their rears off Instead of sitting around trying to find the fastest or easiest way to do something, so we can sit around and do absolutely nothing some more.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing that I don’t like about this situation is the men that follow you in Walmart, whistle at you, and if you have my luck, they follow you to your car too. This isn’t good! (obviously). I know that I’m not the only one that this happens to. Now with all that said, how are we supposed to handle this problem. As Mr. Akers said, it isn’t unusual for men of the Hispanic culture to whistle at girls and stuff like that. But following them? Come on. Not only is that creepy, its just not right.
In my reading I found that the term “Gilded Age” was taken from the book The Gilded Age by Mark Twain. One thing that struck me is the word gilded, and the article talks about this. The term refers to something that’s covered in a thin layer of gold or silver, but not solid. In fact, the inside can be quite ugly; thus we have the “Gilded Age.” A time when things could appear to be great, but really, for whatever reason, were not.
ReplyDeleteLying/cheating in politics is definitely a similarity; even then politicians would promise things they couldn’t or didn’t deliver. It seemed their objective is to be reelected not take care of the nation. This obviously is not the attitude of everyone in office, but, in my opinion, makes up a heavy percentage.
Another similarity, though maybe not quite as “large” or “important, was the reputation America had to the rest of the world. Even with all of its problems, immigrants from destitute countries poured in. In their minds, America was a beacon of hope.
One thing that I noticed was the attitude of the government during this time. It was not so concerned about the well-being of its citizens; sure, they were taken care of and protected by the legal system, but as far as making sure everyone had food, homes, and an education the government left it up to the individuals. And you don’t have to be a genius to realize that’s almost the opposite feeling of today’s leaders.
As for the political machines, maybe what they were trying to do looked good, but like everything else you have to ask, was it solid or just gilded for good looks? While it showed the population of Americans in an impoverished state, was it really a genuine attempt and concern, or a way to make a good name and get more votes next election?
First of all, I must say the research site we were given is rather liberal. It portrays all politicians and business men as the bad guys and everything having to do with business and politics as corrupt and evil. Although there is a degree of corruption in politics and government both then and now, I do not think this website is completely fair. There were many good politicians and businessmen. They seem to portray all prosperous businessmen as evil and corrupt just because they were rich, when in fact many were just smart investors and good businessmen. Did anyone happen to notice that the economy was booming and everyone had a job because of these evil rich guys? As to the question, I think the most obvious similarity is that there is some degree of corruption with politics both then and now, but I see now as less corrupt than then. I also think there was more getting away with scandals and corruption then than now. Another think I see as a similarity and difference is immigration. Both then and now, many people immigrated to the United States, but today it is most illegally. The question I will answer is the second one about the contrast of rich and poor. First I will say there are not as many people that live in what would be considered "poverty" today as compared to poverty in other nations, or poverty during the gilded age. Next i will say there isn't the same huge difference in quality of life for rich vs. middle class today as was then. If you look at both rich and poor today, the rich people might have more nice things and live in a bigger house, but all the basic needs (food, water, shelter, etc.) of rich or middle class people are almost always met. Not so in the gilded age, when the rich lived much better than the middle and lower class.
ReplyDeleteThird question. Political machines made the government more involved in social welfare because politicians would do things for social welfare to get re-elected.
Madyson, great job on the “Gilded Age” bit. I didn’t get to read the whole piece about it, (sometimes I wonder if computers are really all that great, it could just be my luck agin because every time I get on it kicks me right back off) but you summed it up very nicely. As you said the word gilded refers to a thin coating of something beautiful that covers up the ugly thing that is on the inside. I can’t help thinking about how almost everything that we have or do is, in a sense, gilded. The more you think about it the more you see how true it really is. Our way of life is to plaster on a smile, ask someone who has that same smile how they are doing, and respond to their “I’m fine, how are you?” with an "I’m fine", and everyone goes their own way. See what I mean?
ReplyDeleteThe Gilded Age was an era in American history named after a novel coauthored by Mark Twain and Charles Dudley Warner. The novel follows a group of characters who seek after fame and riches with no care for those around them... obvious connection.
ReplyDeleteSimilar to our current political system, the gilded age was full of politicians whose only goals were to receive votes. They did whatever it took-- bribery, fraud, payoff-- and disregarded there purpose: to adhere to the American's needs. Also paralelling today's politics, many people called for reform, but nobody really did anything about it. Different from todays government, they supported a hand-off government style regarding economy. They let imperialism run as it pleased, seeing it best to not get involved. They also used the spoils system, by which an elected official can choose his cabinet members on his own.
In order for the political machine to bribe, they often got involved financially in society: paying for votes, giving food, etc. If these political machines had never brought attention to societies welfare, then there likely wouldn't have been many of the federally funded systems we have today. I understand that Tammeny Hall was not a good system, but some good did come of it. Now, our government is more involved in the welfare of society, with politicians constantly advocating lower taxes, public education, and so forth.
I clicked the gilded age style where I researched the contrast between the extravagant rich families and there lowly tenants who acted as servants. The question that was posed was whether or not the same distinction exists between high class and poor. My answer: yes, though not as obvious.
In our day and age, there are big distinctions between high and low class, we just aren't as aware of it because the two lifestyles are usually separated to different living districts. In New York, for example, there are extremely rich people who live in ridiculously large pent houses and then there are those who live in a grafittied slum apartment. I think it was much more in your face during the gilded age because the tenants lived in the same home as the rich and acted as servants to them.
Xalo, I liked what you pointed out about the Gilded Age when you mentioned that we often take all that we have for granted. Something I was amazed at was how those who were less privileged during the Gilded Age had such grateful and good attitudes even though they had and worked for so little. Maybe the tenements were better living conditions for the immigrants that came in than what they had before, but still. I couldn’t imagine living like that now, but I can see how they would be happy for a place to stay near their work, and their own apartments. We have been given so much, God has really blessed our nation and it’s no wonder people were running in from far away countries to get a taste of the freedom we enjoy, and the many different examples of things we have here that other countries don’t.
ReplyDeleteIn the Gilded Age, politics and business was very corrupt just as it is today. However, today we have standards. People now despise corruption. Then, no one would even know about it. Another similarity is that wealth and power are the main motive for corruption; but today there are good people who wish to destroy corruption and they actually succeed in doing so. Back then you would have most likely ended up dead if you tried anything like that.
ReplyDeleteAs for the question about the political cartoon, I think it was directed at the people who were being controlled by Tweed. The author was trying to show how much Tweed controlled these “puppets in power.” The cartoon also pictured tweed as a big chunky man. This was showing how inflated and powerful tweed was. I mean he could have squished that poor man like a bug. He was also yelling, which symbolized what he would do to get what he wants.
Political machines helped create welfare by funding organizations that benefit him in some manner like an election. Instead giving money away directly to the poor, why not invest this money in organizations that would solve the problems that cause people to be poor, help educate the uneducated, and help find these people a better job.
there are many similarities and differences between the political practices of the guilded age and today. similarly the guilded age had many people in industry becoming very involved in politics which can be seen in many cases today, it is very dificult to be elected in todays political schene without some form of wealth atleast to begin the stages of fund raising and basic appearances. another simialrity is in the way political campaigns are run, for instance today a candidtate says that he will work for the people and bring reform while many times he promises things that do not come true due to either inexperiance or just ignorance to sound doctrine. equally to the similarities there are diferences between the guilded age and today. today we see more and more people who are not neccessarily in business power coming to office all over the country. we see minorities whether in orgin or political party coming to a role of responsibility. in the same way, we see more backing and fund raising in our elections and campaigns today as opposed to the guilded age. candidates today are not required to nearly completely fund their campaign.
ReplyDeletei chose the political cartoon of boss tweed. in this cartoon the artist is trying to sway the public to see behind the scenes or protray a scene that causes an effect on the public that is negative towards poeple who are financially successful and politically powerful. this response that is provked would cause those who are on the pooreer side of the financial and "political" scene to have a negative view of big business owners who become involved in politics and give a feeling of distrust for successful politicians who are businessmen.
the "political machine" was created by people who were financially wealthy and wanted to be involved in politics. two sides are created, you have on one side the rich businessmen who have worked and taken risks that have put them in a situation to be successful and you have on the other side the people who are workers and employees of the businessman, and in the middle there are the also successful but in oposition to people who are the political minority. this cause the influential people who were a political minority to cause uprsings among the people, which in many cases the reforms where called for by the people who where not in the situation of need for reform. but not in every cases, reform was obviously needed in many ways, as pointed out before a moral standard must exists for capitalism to succed. here's the problem, when the government gets involved it seems to always be a more negative influence than positive, welfare is needed in many cases but still a point can be made it creates laziness in the minds of those in a possition to take advantage of it. and there are many other examples of where the government has had atleast some form of negative affect on the country due to its involvment in an area. one solution that may or may not work is the church, if the church truely followed God's law in taking care of one another would there be a need for welfare or social security, supose in antiquity a christian lost his house, what did the church do? the other members of the body sold their possetions to provide for the member who had lost everything so that they would be provided for, if there is a moral law and a true whole hearted trust in God's provision governemnt involvement is not needed.
robbie, i think your essay is excelent!! i totally agree. there must be a two-sided argument to create a far evaluation of history, not just that these businessmen, who may very well have been corrupt in areas, but overall these men where providing a service for compencation that was just, there were laws that prevented monopolies and there where government agencies that investigated these big companies, businessmen have just as much right to join in politics as his employee as long as they both politically elligable. if the businessman has a better campaign due to his wealth if his wealth is honest than there should be no complaint. your essay was very good and pointed out some very good points!!
ReplyDeletecamden, i thought your essay was good and made some points. however, on the website there was a cartoon about corruption for the guilded age so i think people would have or atleast could have known about corruption, whether or nt they were fully exposed to the real news is debatable, just as we are today with all the other puppit news organizations. you made some very good points in your essay about coruption and the way it influenced certain areas of politics. as far as creating more organizations i think it may help or it may do the same thing that most government run organizations do...be run poorly and cost more money than they actually are worth and really end up hurting more than helping.... but over all your essay was enjoyable to read and i thought it was good.
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ReplyDelete1)What are the similarities and differences between the political practices of the Gilded Age and today? (mention at least two of each)
ReplyDelete* Similarities:
(1)The people who said they would help the poor and needy used their power to get elected and didn’t serve the party that elected them but the people that did (aka: the immigrants/poor).
(2) The political officers once elected strayed from their promises to help the people instead the were bought out by the rich ( Wall Street types). This is called machine politics. One example of this is the Democratic Party in New York City headed by William Marcy Tweed, (Tammany Hall political machine of the late 1860s – early 1870s)used money obtained illegally through their high positions, bribery, and rigged the elections to cheat NYC of around $200 million. This money was used for some good because buildings were erected for public use but the “bosses” like Boss Tweed got rich off of the “allowance” they had to pay to these lords of the city to stay in business.
*Differences:
(1) As I was reading I found that if the people of NYC complained that they would be threatened or their income taxes rose. I don’t know of anything like that happening today but I do know that we do have our taxes raised but it’s ( as far as I know ) not because someone has complained.
(2) None of our corrupt officials have been put in jail other than the ones that are on Wall Street but I ask you who were they doing that for? I mean do you seriously think that someone in Washington wasn’t paid off so that they wouldn’t be found out as soon as they were? I’m pretty sure that they would be and I think that Tweed being arrested gave power to Samuel Tilden to get rid of Tweed’s cronies in the government.
2) Choose one of the three "explore" topics listed on the left side of the lesson (you have to start the lesson before they are available) and answer the question asked.
ReplyDelete*1)Which of the statements below is not a reason that people should chose to live in tenements?
Answer: D~ Due to their central urban location, tenements provided easy access to museums, libraries, and universities. *2) A startling disparity exits between the opulence of the Victorian mansions of the Gilded Age and the drabness of the tenements. Do you think that the same sort of contrast between the rich and poor exits today? Going beyond outward appearances, do you think there is a great difference in the quality of life between the well-off and the poor today as there was in the Gilded Age when even middle-class employed servants to do household work while tenement families lived in apartments with few or no utilities?
Answer: Yes and no (for both questions) . In a way there is a big contrast between the two. But in a way there are things that the poor have access to today that they didn’t have then. We do have welfare, government assistance, a minimum wage level, and government departments to regulate the working conditions.
In the way they live: The wealthy have always been able to buy whatever they wanted even if it’s frivolous things like a diamond covered hair straightener (no kidding this really exits). And the poor has always had to pinch pennies and count the cost or they would literally starve. So the conditions are very similar, but not at first glance. We have improved as a society so much that even the rich are richer and the poor have improved a little but there is still that gap that exists between the two and that gap contains so many opportunities that the poor don’t have and the rich can have at little cost to them ( comparatively.)
(3) Finding an approach to reforming political machines proved difficult, since both money and power were firmly established on the side of Tammany Hall. Honest citizens and officeholders found themselves in a bind if they tried to curtail the activities of the bosses since most city employees, including police and judges, owed their jobs and allegiance to Tammany Hall. Whom do you think the artist expected to influence with this cartoon, and what sort of action do you think he would have wanted it to prompt in order to stop machine abuses and achieve reform?
Answer: I think that he was trying to reach the masses. Because this cartoon is very well portrayed as a Bully (Tweed) pushing around someone less fortunate than them. It portrays the bosses taking advantage of the public by taxing them too much and lining their pockets with the money that they don’t use.
I think he was trying to get into peoples heads that if they don’t do something about it than they will be continually pushed around and made to pay extremely high taxes making them poorer and the rich bosses richer. I portrays injustice in the system and is calling people to take action and to quit cowering beneath bullies
3) How did the rise of “political machines" cause the local, state, and federal governments to become involved in social welfare? Can you imagine a better solution?
ReplyDelete* The government saw the power that the bosses and their cronies could do to the people. The working conditions were awful and their taxes rose because they had complained about the injustice in their society. So what the government thought was best was to take over in that situation and provide welfare for the less fortunate. Which was good but considered to be socialist and because Americans have always be against the government being in control of everything this concept was opposed by many people. Nevertheless it was passed because it was what was best for the people. Yet I think that it could have been handled differently and without so many loopholes and ways to inject more socialistic ideas into the society. Because whether we like it or not our government thinks that it has the right to buy our companies and tell the bigger companies what to do. They also think they have the right to bail out companies ( with money borrowed from OTHER COUNTRIES) that have literally almost gone “belly up” in the economy. because they have been allowed to get so big and create monopolies even though there have been laws created to stop this from occurring the government officials see opportunity to make a few extra bucks for themselves by miss using the tax payers dollars to use them for their selfish whims.
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ReplyDeleteEmily, I thought your essay was really good. I agree with the point you made in your last paragraph about us as Christians needing to take a stand and help the less fortunate. Because the Bible says it is the Churches duty to take care of an individual if their families won’t. And in today’s society the family ties aren’t as strong as the once were. So instead of the government coming in and taking care of everything like a big brother we need to care of them and guide them in the faith so that the future will be brighter.
ReplyDeleteMady, I thought your essay was really good. In your first paragraph I found that you had thought the word “gilded” really pertained to this era. When I read the article that stood out to me, but as much as the other facts that I found. And as I continued to read your essay I connected that the outside was their promises to create a better society for the poor but behind all that was lies and corruption that was “gilded” with superficial promise. Like the cartoon portrayed the told the uneducated masses that it was for the better but in all reality they were lining their pockets.
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ReplyDelete1) What are the similarities and differences between the political practices of the Gilded Age and today?
ReplyDeleteWell I think a similarity is how the businesses act they still basically just fight it out to get the most products sold and the most profit so that there is always competition between businesses that is basically what was happening then and is still happening today. The capitalistic society is always going. The next I would have to say would be the politics that are involved in most large businesses kind of think that if we have money we have power kind of mentality so they can continue to gain more. Most of them all want money and power. The differences would probably be the living conditions and pay of the workers some of them lived in worse than shacks that looked terrible and probably four families shared a bathroom. The pay was terrible for factory workers they got next to nothing and were basically used and then when they couldn't work or died they got kicked out or fired.
2) I choose the Tenement houses and the answer was C. The tenement houses were the worst living condition I have seen and they were terrible. Regularly one tenement served four apartments. Which is crazy I don’t know how they did it.
3) How did the rise of political "machines" cause the local, state, and federal governments to become involved in social welfare? Can you imagine a better solution?
I think a better solution would be to have a less socialized economy for people to have to work for everything they earned. Then people that wouldn’t work wouldn’t eat and the people that did would. Only giving to people who could not work, I think they made a bad decision that changed what we do and how we work.
It seems like man does not change nor does he learn. When hearing about the Gilded age it sounds like today's economy. The advancement of new technologies can be as threatening. I trust we have improved our sweat child labor, though I'm not sure about our outsourcing overseas. Government has become more paralized but still has trouble with politicians who do not understand the terms "servant of the people and for the people."
ReplyDeleteI choose the topic New York City Tenement Houses. The living conditons were very bleak. Tenements were trying to survive and make a living for themselves. Even though they may have been in walking distance to libraries and museums that would have been the last thing in their mind.
I find the atmosphere of politics is different today than in the Gilded age. More and more the reigning political government has a lot more socialistic leanings than the Gilded age. I love the thought of people being responsible for their own welfare. I think because of the corruption and abuse of power in pocketing their pockets with money for building bridges, roads, hospitals, libraries and schools in the name of social welfare, people have become jaded and want better management of community projects and have asked the governemnt to step in. My question is "Can a self serving government be the eyes and judge of morality when they themselves are crooked."
Well, Michael Pope, I really enjoyed your comment. Only next time please put the right name.
ReplyDeleteThere are many differences in the "Gilded Age" and the modern age. One of the differences is that now people are not worried about things like having a gold or silver standard. The next thing I would like to mention is something Mr. Akers said in class. Politicians did not go out and tell people to vote for them unless they were selected by their party. It would be nice if people would do that now days because there would not be people like Ralph Nader.
Now the similarities. There is still election fraud and scandal that happen today. For example in the last election ACORN. Another example is the Bush Cheney election. It is definitely not on the same scale as it was back then but it still happens. Another thing is foreign affairs. Back then the United States was just becoming a major part of the world scene. Today the world court is a big topic and one that could have some very long lasting effects.
I chose to do the second question about comparing living conditions. The first thing that I noticed was that the tenements were kind of like a college dormitory they had a small room with a bed and living area. The only difference that I noticed was that the tenements had a kitchen in them and some had balconies. Another thing to think about it is that no matter what the government does, short of communism or socialism, there is all ways going to be a group of people who in comparison are living in bad conditions. So to answer the question yes it does and always will.
In response to Mr. Akers third question I think that there has been a sort of role swap between the government and the public. Back then the government got more benefits than the people. Now the people get more benefits. The way that the "machines" caused the government to get involved is simple they gave people stuff to vote for the candidate that they thought was the best for themselves.
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ReplyDeleteThe Gilded Age, the style was extravagant and overdone (in my opinion). The name was taken from the writings of Mark Twain from a book he co-wrote named the Gilded Age. The name can be taken in several ways. It can be taken to be a reference to the quality of business procedures, which looked like they were conducted fairly but were often corrupt; or it could be pointing out the obsession with appearance at the time. No matter what the name truly means the Gilded Age was a period in time that has many similarities-and differences- to where we are now.
ReplyDeleteOne thing that seems to be similar between that time and now is something that will always be true; Man is corrupt. That means politicians will have the natural urge to be corrupt also. Many leaders tend to help only the group that got them where they were and forget about the public that got them elected into the position they were in. Also, media has always had an influence. I said earlier the culture of the time, much like ours, was focused on image; and one great manipulator of a person’s image is media. Even then political cartoonist Nast had a great influence over the public opinion of Tweed, even though he had great public influence himself. Differences I see though are that the government thought its job was to provide the minimum of what people need, but government didn’t help people with their welfare. Another thing that I think was different was that then it seemed like it was a lot harder for the people who were working in factories to gain power and money and leadership.
A political cartoon of Tweed teaching Richard Connolly, New York’s city comptroller, arithmetic was released in 1871. The problem is all of the math done in the picture is completely wrong. There are also references to the price of building the county courthouse which reached up twelve million dollars. (two-thirds of the cost was not legitimate) The main aim of the comic, I believe, was working class/the public. I think the artist wanted the public, whose taxes were being poured into the bosses of Tammany Hall pockets. I think the artist wanted people to protest and vote new people, who were not connected to Tweed, into power. I also believe he wanted his actual facts and data to be used against Tweed and others in court; just not in the same manner(a comic).
Political machines pulled in millions of dollars through illegal practices. Tammany Hall had managed to pull in two hundred million dollars through bribes and kickbacks, and even though a small portion of the money went to help the poor and widowed the job was done terribly. When people saw how poorly executed these outreaches were they asked for reform. Outspoken reformers were often threatened and those not threatened were often unfairly taxed. When the big machines fell (like Tammany Hall) the reformers lobbied for the government to fill the role these machines had taken. The government took on a whole new challenge when they passed laws to include the welfare of citizens into its budget. I think that to a certain extent this was a good idea. Government influence often turns out bad, but there are people who really need the help. Mr. Akers has often pointed out in class that if the church truly did its job the government shouldn’t have to interfere. I think this is an awesome point, but it would take everyone doing their part in the church and helping as much as they can. As far as a new solution there isn’t one I can think of that would be acceptable in today’s culture.
1. First off the “Gilded Age” was a time in American history when America seemed like the Land of opportunities, but in reality was a place of constant struggle and poverty. The term gilded means to apply gold or other valuable material over a cheaper material. Making it seems good but it really isn’t, this is why this time period was called the Gilded Age.
ReplyDeleteT here was a couple of similarities between the Gilded Age and today that I noticed. For example just like way back then believe it or not there is still a lot of corruption in politics. They’ll say one thing and do another, just to get your vote. Another similarity is that there are still “Robber Barons” around today in my opinion. Such as Donald Trump, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates, although these men have a much better reputation today than they did back then.
There are also many differences between the past and present government policies. While today’s government tends to take from its citizens more than give, they have established programs to help the less fortunate that they didn’t have at that time. For example, people who have been injured and are not able to work are offered disability, which offers so much income to meet living needs. Another program offered by the government today is welfare. Welfare provides assistance for living expenses and healthcare.
2. After looking at the political cartoon, it seemed to me like the author was trying to influence the common people. The arithmetic being obviously wrong is a symbol of the corruption that Boss Tweed was using to gain power and money. By drawing this cartoon, the author wanted to prompt rebellion against the machine politics of that time. He showed this by illustrating Boss Tweed as the bully, and the public as the victim.
3. The rise of political machines caused all branches of government to become involved in social welfare because they treated the people so poorly that the government had no choice but to step in and help them.
1) The "Gilded Age" was in the late nineteenth century and the early twentieth century. This was an age where people were either rich or poor and this caused either a positive or negative effect. Many things went great and were successful while others completely crashed and failed. Many of the issues going on in that time were similar to the issues we are having today. One of them is the politics. Many times people running for office will say anything and everything to win the people over so they can be elected but what happens once those people are elected? Well sometimes they go through with some of the things they say but most the time they fail to solve what they said they were going to. It shows how money and power tend to corrupt people. Another way they are similar is many large companies and businesses began coming together to form greater and bigger and more successful corporations. Although while many things were similar many things were different, one of the things different was how there are not as many scandals and sneaking going on. Many of the scandals that go on today are exposed and are found out. Another thing different is how now we have more technology then they did in the Gilded Age. We are able to be more efficient in processing and making things then they were able to.
ReplyDelete2) Well the contrast between rich and poor is very much the same today. However during the Gilded Age it was much more evident then it is today. You could tell just by looking at people if they were rich or poor. Nowadays you can tell somewhat but not as easily because it is easier for people to still have a living because if they are unemployed they can no get welfare. While back then if you did not have a job no one was going to take care of you. It is all left up to you to figure out how you are going to make a living.
3) The political "machines" kept growing and we began to rely more and more on the government. We want the government to take care of us and provide us with all our needs. And I honestly do not know a better solution at least I can't think of one right now.
Good Job on your essay, Jessica. It was easy to understand and I enjoyed reading it. I agree with what you said about how politics are similar from back in the Gilded Age and today. Today people will still say anything just so the people will elect them just like with the “political machines” during the Gilded Age. Sometimes they follow through with what they said originally, but their plan may not have been what was really good for the nation in the first place. You’re right, money and power can and do corrupt people. I think it would be hard to be put in such a position-being a political leader- but I still disagree with some of the choices they make today
ReplyDeleteJaykub ... I tought your essay was pretty good. I agree with pretty much all of the points that you made, and liked how you typed it, making really good points, without it being pages and pages long like some of the other essays that I would be commenting on, but I do not have hours to read it, so I decided to read the shorter ones. I can not really comment on your second question, because i did not look at the political cartoon on the website, I chose the Gilded Age Styles question to answer. I also lioked the answer that you had to the third question it was pretty cool. great essay, Jaykub
ReplyDeleteTyler Mize, your post wasn't bad. I agree with a lot of the stuff that you said, like the differences and similarities between the politics of the Gilded Age and today. I also really liked your answer to third question... but it seemed strangely familiar... almost like I had read it before... Anyways, cool post.
ReplyDeleteJaykub, sorry if it seemed like i was plagiarizing, but I hadnt actually tried to do thet, and i accidentally copied the wrong document from word, where i had that put as a reference point to answer the third question. i was actually going to put something similar, after i had added some extra information to back up my point. i had saved that as a rough draft and accidentally posted that. but i agree with all the points in your post as well and thought it was extremely well written
ReplyDeleteMr.Akers,with all due respect, i really wish you would post your links as actual links that can be clicked. but on to the actual rply Jbyrd i liked your post, and congrats on being first poster this week. i agree with all of your points.
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ReplyDeleteI enjoyed reading your post a lot. I like how you emphasized on how the Gilded Age was a period of appearance. People. Business, organizations, even countries would all try to maintain a placid, well controlled composer on the outside. However, as countless scandals were uncovered, it became evident that it was anything but that way.
Also, I liked how you pointed out how much easier it was for people to be dishonest in the that date and age. As you said, now-a-days, with the technology we have, most scandals are soon uncovered, and make front page news the next day. This is not only discouraging to "white-collar" criminals, but empowering to the people as a whole. It has given us almost a no-one-can-pull-the-wool-over-our-eyes mentality. (Which makes us even more so infuriated when scandals are uncovered.) But anyway, excellent job with the essay.
Jessica,
ReplyDeleteI also enjoyed reading your essay. The first line or two really captivated me when you said that it was either a time or feast or famine. The middle class virtually disappeared in the U.S. at the time. The working class dominated the American population, and they happened to live in poverty by today's standards. And then, the upper class made up the rest of the population, with so much money that they virtually owned chunks of the U.S.
Also, I liked how you pointed out that the rich and poor were much more defined in that time. This went on to back up your first statement.
Lastly, I liked how you pointed out that the machines "taught" the American people to rely on the Government (or some other higher power) to provide for their needs. This with out a doubt is a MASSIVE part (or should I say flaw?) of our culture today. Awesome job.
J Byrd, your essay was pretty cool. I can tell you thought through it, because you had many good points. What you said about money controlling politics now and then is very true. Like you said, similar to today, small businesses merged together to form large corporations back in the Gilded Age. I also agree with you that the machines giving social benefits to the poor did somewhat put the overall public in a fix. Well, good post.
ReplyDeleteOk, so I know this is 2 days late but I put it off to the last minute and didn’t get to finish it before I had to leave for D-now. :P
ReplyDelete1) Differences:
a. While the misuse of power by politicians was fairly common in the Gilded Age, there is less of it today. Yes, there may be a few crooked ones out there but it is better than what it once was.
b. Another significant difference is, of course, the contrast between the living conditions. The people in office had to deal with very different issues than the officials do today.
Similarities:
a. Of course, the Gilded Age way of politics is still, more or less, like it is today. Someone runs for office and campaigns to earn the most votes.
b. Another similarity is the way the government is set up. The three main branches, executive, legislative, and judicial, are the same, though some may have more power than the others did.
2) I think the artist of the political cartoon wanted to inform the higher authorities of what was going on and hoping that they would do something to stop it.
David, I really liked how you brought the impact in the media on appearance. In the Gilded Age, the appearance of a person, whether socially or physically, had to be boisterous and elegant. We see in pictures, documentation, etc. how extravagant the appearance was back then. Today, we see that same focus on appearance. The media puts so much emphasis on the perfection of the looks of individuals. It will use anything to make the person look good, and that is one factor in obtaining fame in today’s society. Yes, we also tend to be attracted to things that are different, but we cannot deny our attraction to beauty.
ReplyDeleteHannah, good essay! Sadly it is true that most politicians will benefit more than they should, but that’s just the world we live in. And the difference between classes isn’t as prominent as it once was. The poor in the Gilded Age would live in a two room house with six or seven other people! We don’t see that kind of stuff as much in this century. And although politicians may be a little selfish sometimes they do work hard and try to do what’s best for the people and country they’re representing. Good essay!
ReplyDeleteMady, I find it really interesting that the Gilded Age name came from Mark Twain. Good research! ;) Also, good job on realizing what “gilded” in Gilded Age really meant. It describes the time period quite well if you ask me. Great job on your essay!
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ReplyDeleteBen, you gave the answer to a question many people have. Some may ask why is there not as much corruption today (or evident corruption) as there was back then. The answer is that we have more protection in the government system. With agencies and specific groups to oversee the political system, there is more protection from corruption. Though some scandals are not detected, we do have a tighter process to go through in the system.
ReplyDeleteYour essay was pretty good, Ben. Same as with Jon, I agree with you money does indeed rule politics. Like you mentioned, businessmen sometimes run for office to get wealth or power. I also agree with you that the machines would cause a disaster if they were to spread out today. I don’t see anything I disagree with you on, so, good essay.
ReplyDeleteIf one were to look closely at the facts of “The Gilded Age,” they would find many similarities between the political practices of then and today. First of all, politics then, as now, seemed bright and shiny on the outside, but if one looked on the inside, they would be quite surprised to survey the vastness of scandal and corruption. Not all politicians were or are that way but one would have to be very naïve to believe it isn’t common. Another similarity was the “fascination of gold, wealth, and power.” Is it really any different in our current society? I think not. There’s nothing wrong with working hard, prosperous, and being successful and consequently, wealthy in your life. However, when your life revolves around how to get more power, how to get more money, that can often not turn out well. When someone is so desperate for wealth and power that they are willing to cheat their way to the top, that can typically result in a corrupt leader.
ReplyDeleteNow, on to the differences. According to the video, government at this time left the actual welfare of the people to themselves. Wow, have we come a long, long way from that. In some aspects, I think that’s good, but it’s gone entirely too far. Such as government controlled healthcare. Are you kidding me?! This is ridiculous. But I shall refrain from ranting about that on here. Difference number two: this may seem a bit random among the other things I’ve stated, but we have made so many more substantial advancements in our technology than we had back then. As a result, at least in theory, elections and such matters can be handled with more efficiency and integrity.
New York City Tenement Houses
Tons of people lived in these poor excuses for apartments in industrial cites, but why? Why on earth would someone choose of their own free will to live in such pitiful and unsanitary conditions. Well, for many, it was simply their only choice financially. It was all they could afford. For the immigrants who came here to work and have a better life, they were a vast improvement from what they had back home. For still yet others, it was simply convenient. They didn’t have to pay for transportation to somewhere that was walking distance. In addition, it seemed to provide that sense of common ground. They were all in the same boat.
And finally, in regards to the political “machines,” they grew larger and larger. This resulted in the public demanding that more of their needs be met. Take care of us! And no, I don’t really have any idea as to how it could be better. I honestly think if I really understood it better, I might would have something better to say, but hey. This is just my opinion.
DSams
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed reading your essay. You did an awesome job of not just telling the bare minimum, but going above and beyond to really tell the whole history of the matter at hand. I liked the fact that you explained where the title of that age originated. I also liked the point that you made about not just politicians, but people in general. We will always have the temptation to be dishonest and corrupt. Especially if it means we are going to get a nice, juicy monetary or egotistical profit from it. As Christians, it’s our duty to resist those temptations and set higher standards for ourselves to better our society.
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I enjoyed your entire essay. I thought it was very thorough and informative. I particularly liked what you had to say in your last paragraph about Machines. Everything you said was true and accurate. However, you said something that kind of hit home with me.
‘There is always a better solution than what is implemented.” How true! There really is always more room to improve.
Similarities in the two politics....first both governments seemed perfect on the outside, but if you take a look on the inside it is as corrupt as it gets. The second one is that both governments were os are influenced or controlled by the corruption and love of money. Most politicians are easily influenced by money.
ReplyDeleteThe Differences are, first the advances made in technology, In the "political" point of view it make things such as voting an easier process and a much easier way to tally votes and it keeps it from dispute. Second was the way government handled the money for the poor, for example in the Gilded Age people were not given the opportunities for things such as welfare or unemployment. Nowadays the poor people are giving these things and people who have money take advantage of them.
The rise of "political" machines caused the government to become very greedy and raise prices on things to give money to the poor and when trying to think of a different solution i didn’t know what i would do but i don’t agree with the way it was done..
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ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed your essay and how you answered the question about the corruption of the governmet and also how your essay was extremly thought out and very well worded
Vanessa....
ReplyDeleteMe and you had some of he same points so of course i enjoyed your essay. My favorite part was your answer to the "political" machone question but now how you answered it but you opinoin on it i thought,(same as you) that if we were givin more information on them we could find a way to change but i really enjoyed your whole essay and i thought it was well thought out...
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ReplyDeleteMichael Harrel,
ReplyDeleteI liked your essay, but I really liked your introduction..."Man does not change, nor does he learn." That's so true, we see the government today making some of the exact same mistakes we were making today. I just really like that. Good job bud!
Jarred Johnson,
ReplyDeleteLike most people, including myself, you talked about how politicians are generally (notice I say generally, please no one have a cow) more concerned with winning their next election. They tend to make promises that aren't kept, or accomplish next to nothing while in office to keep from making a big mistake. I believe, it's the politicians that try hard, do what is right, accomplish goals, and sometimes even make large mistakes that are the better politicians. Sadly, we have placed a stereotype on them today, but they are without excuse. Anyway, I'm being somewhat wordy now, so I'll be done. Good job jay.
Emily, I really like what you said about us being guilty of complaining because we all are. It really makes me mad when people complain because one, they don't even know what they're talking about half of the time; and two, as you said so well, it could be much worse. I think we just enjoy complaining... Also, what you said about our new age of individualism. I never had really thought about the effects the political leader (president, governor, congressmen) had in past eras, but they really did "set the stage." Good essay.
ReplyDeleteI liked what Emily said, we do complain too much about our government. In reality or government is not so bad. I think people tend to overexagerate and make things seem worse than they appear. For example, I was in Alabama helping my new pastor move out of Alabama. We kind of overkiled what we used to move his stuff, a semi. As they tried to get this semi out of the drive way, someone yelled, “Oh, he is about to hit the house.” I looked up and saw this tractor-trailer about to literally run over our new pastor’s house. In reality the semi was three to four feet from the house and was in no danger of hitting the house; it just scarred everybody to death. The meaning of this is that sometimes things appear to be headed for disaster, but stops and continues as normal.
ReplyDeleteI liked what Biggin said. "Can a self serving government be the eyes and judge of morality when they themselves are crooked?" I think the answer to this question is no. If a corrupt government declares right or wrong, then the law will state what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right.
ReplyDeleteEmily: I really like your thought that image is everything. As Americans we can base our values on outward shows of strength and leadership. We can get caught up in visual appearance of strength versus inner core values.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you regarding the difference between the rich and poor. Clothing is a lot more accessable than during the Gilded Age. Housing can be more disclosing in whether a person is in middle class or upper or lower class. I think in time middle and upper class has dissolved into middle ground.
Anna Katherine: I liked what you said how money seemed to control everything then and now. The fact that there is a wider variety of people now that fund the political machines versus the Gilded Age with a narrow buying power. I find it interesting concerning President Obama and his voting record. Using voters to help get your to the next rung on the political ladder is not a new idea, but it does not carry the idea of being a servant of the people for the people.
ReplyDeletemy source was: http://www.hippocampus.org/hippocampus.php/course_locator.php?course=US History II&lesson=46&topic=1&width=800&height=684&topicTitle=The%20Tweed%20Ring%20and%20Machine%20Politics&skinPath=http://www.hippocampus.org/hippocampus.skins/default
Charlie, one of the points you made was interesting. You pointed out that companies then, just like now, are only after profit and outselling others. I think that as long as we are capitolistic that will always be the case. After all, the point of capitolism is to outsell.
ReplyDeleteVanessa, you brought up a few things that some other people (inclding me) had talked about too. You mentioned how corrupt politicians can be, but they keep a facade of peace and kindness. You also talked about how far we've come with government involvement. I think that something many people are very passionate about. Most of us agree that a little involement is reasonable, but as you said, at least in my opinion, too much involvement is bad. I think that when the government gets too involved things never work out. But, something you brought up that was (fairly) unique was our technological advances. It's something we often over look when we see honest results. I think sometimes honesty is forced onto some people, who would otherwise be corrupt.
ReplyDeleteEmily, great job on your essay. I like your opening sentences amd how you pointed out that we do complain about the government. I think so many of us look at things and tend to only see that bad that they have done or accomplished but fail to look to what good has come of it. We are all guilty of sin so the people over the government are not perfect, they make mistakes. Therefore the government is not always going have the perfect solution. I believe that even though we do not always agree with their decisions we have to abide by them but we do not have to agree with them. I see it as a parent, child situation. You as child have to obey your parents rules even though you do not agree with them. This does not mean you believe the same but you do have to respect their decisions. And don't get me wrong I am not saying if the government makes a decision that you disagree with just stand by and let everything happen. I am saying we should respect our government.
ReplyDeleteThere are a few similarities and differences between the political practices of the Gilded Age and of the current state of the United States of America, one of the similarities is saw was gold. It takes a large part of of every countries economy and it has been used through out all of history as a form of wealth. But the abundance of it, and the price keeps lots of people from getting it. another one of the similarities I notice was immigration. Back then to become a United States Citizen all you had to do was get on a boat and there you go. Compared to today were you have to get the form and wait years. That is why immigrants just decide to just come on over.
ReplyDeleteSome of the differences are that today we have rules that businesses must follow and we have agencies that make sure that make sure that these men follow these rules. And another thing is people notice a lot more. If the politician doesn't care for the people of ignores the people he is noticed and his chances for re-election are reduced or he is just removed from power.
Back in the last 19th century, early 20th century rich and poor were two differences things entirely then what we call them today. Poor was having no home, no food, had hardly any possessions to name. While the rich was living the life as a king. But in today's standards we don't classify poor as starving and homeless. And the rich living pretty good but nothing extraordinary.
In the early 20th century the political "machine" took advantage of the poverty. They would bride the common people with work, food, or money in exchange for their vote and loyalty to the administration. The government saw this and eventually putting a stop to it many by removing them from office and started caring for the people.
1) During the Gilden age compared to now we have a few similarities and differences. Both politics and the system of economy. In politics, money has always had a hold on them. When the power of money came clear to the person in charge of a company they soon started running for elections, thinking that since they have the money that they can go after being a president. And that’s what it’s like today, there are people who have the money for a great campaign and win.
ReplyDeleteEconomy, “Money is the Root of all Evil” yess and its true. The greed and satisfaction of money always finds its way somewhere. Back then there were the big dogs who made a lot of money with big corporations and gave there workers hardly any, but on the other hand there were the people who were also in charge of big corporations but were kind and compassionate and gave there money to the less fortunate and cared about there workers. And its like that today to, working for minimum wage 6 hours a day after skool and on weekends, you either have a nice boss, one who cares or one who will make you work on Wednesday nights.
2) Back then there was great difference between the lower and upper classes. But today you can’t tell that much, because some rich person can go buy a nice plaid flannel from Hollister but go to Goodwill or Wallmart and get the same exact thing. The women made the clothes there selves and nowadays we just go buy something, and it looks just as nice as the cheaper thing at wallmart. And I guess you can tell about houses and such too. Like how big it is, and how nicee it looks. Its always going to be this way, people being richer and people being poorer.
3) The reason Government became a big deal in social welfare is because the “machines” were greedy and didn’t care who they were crushing. Right now I cant imagine another solution, it looks and feels fine to me.
Colby, I really enjoyed your essay, and how you showed about some of the deceitfulness and tactics that politicians used and still do today to gain the one thing they want, votes, and how you showed that happened in those days but still looking on the aspect of whats happening today.
ReplyDeleteAnna, your essay was very well written and I enjoyed reading it. I liked your statement of how money ruled in the Gilded Age and still does today. Money always controls, I mean think about it. Money kind of determines your future. There are very few things in life you can have without some amount of money. No matter how much you do or don't like to admit it money plays a major key role today and always has. This is not always good though because like the Bible says the root of evil is the love of money. Some people become so hungry for wealth and money that they neglect thinking of other people. Money is not in itself a bad thing but it can turn into something harmful depending and on how its used and how it affects peoples lives.
ReplyDeleteSam I liked how you look at unemployment, and disability. As we all know Unemployment is at a high point and how the government will take care of you giving enough to live comfortably. But back then if you were disabled you had better find a way to get money if you were to survive.
ReplyDeleteThe gilded age politics are both alike and different from our own politics. One difference is bribing the community in exchange for votes were pretty common back then but today it happens very rarely. Another form of governmental assistance known as the “good ole’ boy” system is the exchange of business favors for helping your friends out no matter what the their situation is or their company.
ReplyDeleteIn the political cartoon boss Tweed was portrayed as a bullying school teacher and the comptroller of NYC. while Richard B. Connolly, was portrayed as a school boy. The cartoon was mainly targeted towards the people. So that they wouldn’t trust corrupt business men with their finances or any public office. The initial reaction the artist was hoping to see was outrage from the people and it is even depicted with Connolly saying “These figures won’t suit my father, the public.” Tweed’s response was outrage, and he requests that Connolly ignore the public and worry about becoming rich with Tweed’s very poor money handling abilities.
The beggining of political machines caused the so called “favors” it offered for votes and political trust. The less fortunate immigrants needed a major economic boost but the government wouldnt have anything to do with them.this is mostly why they were so successful. They took away from those who bairly had enough money for themselves let alone their whole family. At this point in time the government in the machine provided for the people and they soon became reliaent on it. After a vast majority of the machines were dismantled the government continued the same basic principals of it. respect of providing for those who could not provide for themselves.
hannah, I liked what you said about how politicians will always cause good in this country. Even though we don't always agree with their ideals, the cream always rises to the top and good ideas turn into good laws. Republicans and Democrats alike will produce laws that will guide this country on its continued path to greatness. We just have to remember to keep GOD in the picture!!
ReplyDeleteColby, I really enjoyed your essay, and how you revieled a few of the tricks that politicions use today to be sure to get what they need and also how you showed that happened in those days but still looking on the aspect of whats happening today
ReplyDeleteGuffey, I agree with your point about the different living conditions in the Gilded Age and today. Politicians back then definitely had more difficult situations to deal with than politicians do now.
ReplyDeleteCamden,
ReplyDeleteYou made a very good point in your essay when you mentioned that there has been a role swap between the government and the people. Even though politics are still somewhat corrupt, the people usually get more benefits.
The Gilded Age and our modern age have shown many likenesses. For example, the government has shown that it pleasures in using it's power for personal gain. Socialism sought it early roots in early American life. The government began to say they saw the people as a responsibility. When, in fact, the government should really just be protecting our rights (with minimum involvement) and guarding against foreign attack. Obviously we need same barriers, but thats why the people elect the government. The president should never get to pick justices, etc... Anyhow, I see many likenesses in early america like todays government.
ReplyDeleteJeremy you had a very good essay. I really liked your part about the political cartoon. You anallysed it very well. You brought up some very good points about the way people were dependent on the government. All in all this was a very good essay.
ReplyDeletePoehner, you brought up a really good point about the fact that gold takes up a lot of a nations wealth. Gold was a really big issue at that time and still is. You also brought up a good piont about immigration. That is another really big issue. Another thing I really liked was when you brought up how the definition of poor has changed.
ReplyDeletethe gilded age of politics was somewhat similar to todays politics, yet it was so different. during the gilded age, wealth was a large factor of life and was greatly desired. the desire for money pushed some of the politicians into bribery, and many other crooked acts that should never be done by a man in power. one particular man milked the city of 200,000,000, (two hundred million) for himself. it wasnt until an irish journalist came and showed the truth to the millions of people whose tax dollars were put into great use in said mans personal account.
ReplyDeletein the political cartoon, i believe the cartoonist is attempting to influence the public. the man on the stool is the "son" of the public and doesnt think the "father" would be very happy with the very incorrect math problem. the man towering over him is tweed. he milked the city for the large amount posted above. tweed is telling this man that if you basically put a little in, you can get ALOT out for yourself.
the machines were stealing money from the public. the public never really realized this until the irishman got word out. providing welfare was really all the govt could do to support these robbed people. i think that today welfare is abused heavily. people take advantage of their kids being disabled or not being able to read and find that a legitimate excuse to not work and let the taxpayers pay for their life. i see it almost everyday and dont like it. although there isnt really a better solution.
Emily, it is so true how we look at our govt and complain about it. we are blessed to have a setup like we do where the people choose the potus, though we may not like him, we can choose a new one in 4 years and its not just passed down based on who you are and how much money you have. we actually have a say in politics. although if you dont know the issues you shouldnt vote, we have the chance to. not many people actually do in the other countries.
ReplyDeleteBen, your essay was great. as Jon also said, I agree with you bout the money ruling a good majority of politics. you also said somethin about, businessmen sometimes run for office to get wealth or power. I also agree with you that the machines would cause a disaster if they were to spread out today. I basically agree on almost everything in your post.
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